I'm a simple user, with some very limited knowledge of software developing but with some knowledge of management and having read many discussions on OSS and as a very raw user of Gimp on OS X i would to suggest something to this discussion list. I went to the Gimp on Mac site the other day for seeing if any updates were available and saw the plead for help of the mac developer as he is only one and seriously needs help. I can't help on the programming unfortunately but i had other idea. As you know Apple is launching its App Store on Mac OS X somewhere in the next month. This will allow for a significant number of users an easy way to look for software, download and install it, with reduced complexity and steps. Quite similar (equal) to the package manager in all of the linux distros but most domestic users never used/tried a linux system so. My idea is this: Put Gimp on the App Store.
GIMP, an open-source application for graphics editing, is due to ship June 25 and orders are now being taken. For US$19.95 you will get a CD with the native (XFree86) version of the software.
With a symbolic fee, let's say 2.5$. If the 70/30 ratio of apple store is applied, then that should be 1.75$ for each download. This could be a significant source of income for the Gimp Project, the Gimp on Mac and could possibly allow a single developer to be committed full-time to it. This symbolic fee could be either for each 2.X updates or perpetual, that is open to discussion, i'm not that sure on the details.
Now before any flamming and discussion on the GPL, i would like to state that the App Store webpage on Gimp should clearly state that this is opensource software, that you can download the source and/or the binary from the project page and that this is essentially a donation to the project combined with a easy software install and upgrade management. If the app store is a sucess, as i think it will, then most users will already have an account and a credit card associated, as in itunes store. And that means that the donation and install of Gimp on mac is just a 'click away'. Now that is a powerfull aid for the 'normal' user wich doesn't want to go around looking for stuff on the wild wild web and the easy install combined with the app store 'top apps' could seriously make Gimp very much visible to the 'masses'.
And provide a steady flow of income to the project. Wich could help Gimp and Gimp on OS X immensely.
Just food for thought and my very small two cents for the project. Thank your for this great product.
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 18:15 +0000, Filipe Sim-Sim wrote: My idea is this: Put Gimp on the App Store. With a symbolic fee, let's say 2.5$. If the 70/30 ratio of apple store is applied, then that should be 1.75$ for each download. This could be a significant source of income for the Gimp Project, the Gimp on Mac and could possibly allow a single developer to be committed full-time to it.
This symbolic fee could be either for each 2.X updates or perpetual, that is open to discussion, i'm not that sure on the details. If anyone wants to improve GIMP on OS X and put it up on the App Store, for whatever fee, they are free to do that. We can't stop anyone from doing that anyway and as long as the changes are pushed back upstream, everyone will benefit. Now I am curious if some real improvements to GTK+ on OS X and GIMP would result from this.
Currently there doesn't seem to be any interest in GIMP on OS X. Even though there's a pretty well working Quartz port of GTK+, there haven't been any successful attempts to make a binary GIMP installer from this (as far as I know). I very much doubt that money would change this, but if someone thinks that he/she could make a living from this, please go ahead and give it a try. In general we (and the GTK+ developers) are very much interested in getting your changes integrated upstream. On 19:15, Filipe Sim-Sim wrote: Now before any flamming and discussion on the GPL, i would like to state that the App Store webpage on Gimp should clearly state that this is opensource software, that you can download the source and/or the binary from the project page and that this is essentially a donation to the project combined with a easy software install and upgrade management. If Apple doesn't change their Terms of Service for this instance of an App store, then we won't have to bother with discussions about whether the GNU GPL allows this distribution method - Apple will simple remove GIMP from the store.
See for some background. HTH, Michael. On 7 December 2010 22:07, Sven Neumann wrote: in GIMP on OS X. Even though there's a pretty well working Quartz port of GTK+, there haven't been any successful attempts to make a binary GIMP installer from this (as far as I know).
I very much doubt that gtk-osx is used to make binary installers for inkscape, gimp, gnucash and others. There's a gimp binary here, and probably other places around the net: I've used it for my own project and it seems to work OK. As Michael says, it'll be interesting to see if Apple revise their terms for the OS X version of the app store to allow.GPL software. You never know.
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 10:45 +0000, jcupitt at gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2010 22:07, Sven Neumann wrote: in GIMP on OS X. Even though there's a pretty well working Quartz port of GTK+, there haven't been any successful attempts to make a binary GIMP installer from this (as far as I know). I very much doubt that gtk-osx is used to make binary installers for inkscape, gimp, gnucash and others. There's a gimp binary here, and probably other places around the net: I've used it for my own project and it seems to work OK. This is GIMP based on GTK+ for X11.
It needs an additional X11 server running on OS X and thus integration into the system is very poor. What I was talking about is the Quartz backend for GTK+ which allows GIMP to run as a native application. As far as I know no one has ever made a binary installer for OS X based on this. On 13 December 2010 19:56, Sven Neumann wrote: This is GIMP based on GTK+ for X11. It needs an additional X11 server running on OS X and thus integration into the system is very poor.
What I was talking about is the Quartz backend for GTK+ which allows GIMP to run as a native application. As far as I know no one has ever made a binary installer for OS X based on this. Ooop, sorry, you're right. Gtk-osx makes native apps, they link to that gimp as a success story of theirs, I assumed it was therefore native.
The GIMP community does not seem to care about OS X. But a version for OS X is available via MacPorts. IMHO, wait until 2.10.2 will be released and stay with 2.8 until then - YMMV. On 9 May 2018, at 15:51, Jake Bayer wrote: Hi GIMP Community, I'm brand new to this user list, and I had a question about the new 2.10 release.
I know there's a direct download available for Windows and Linux, but when can we expect a macOS direct download for GIMP 2.10? Thanks Jake gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives: - Maurizio Loreti. Maurizio Loreti 05-09-18 11:59: The GIMP community does not seem to care about OS X.
But a version for OS X is available via MacPorts. IMHO, wait until 2.10.2 will be released and stay with 2.8 until then - YMMV. On 9 May 2018, at 15:51, Jake Bayer wrote: Hi GIMP Community, I'm brand new to this user list, and I had a question about the new 2.10 release.
I know there's a direct download available for Windows and Linux, but when can we expect a macOS direct download for GIMP 2.10? Thanks Jake gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives: - Maurizio Loreti - 'The GIMP community' does not care, seem is not applicable, for any distro or operating system. 'The GIMP community' does not package or provide packages for.any. operating system or distro.
Individuals donating their time package gimp for. If gimp is not available or the version you wish is not available, contact the packager for your system and beg him to update his packages, or pay him or package it yourself, or install via source code, or just do without. It is free and open source software. Now you know and will not disseminate false and mis-leading information.
(paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ Photos: paka @ IRCnet freenode. For a 2.10 working version on OSX Works great, you just need to watch which version of OSX you are using and Multi Threading as you may need to change that setting in Prefs.
On 9 May 2018, at 19:17, Patrick Shanahan wrote:. Maurizio Loreti 05-09-18 11:59: The GIMP community does not seem to care about OS X. But a version for OS X is available via MacPorts. IMHO, wait until 2.10.2 will be released and stay with 2.8 until then - YMMV. On 9 May 2018, at 15:51, Jake Bayer wrote: Hi GIMP Community, I'm brand new to this user list, and I had a question about the new 2.10 release.
I know there's a direct download available for Windows and Linux, but when can we expect a macOS direct download for GIMP 2.10? Thanks Jake gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives: - Maurizio Loreti - 'The GIMP community' does not care, seem is not applicable, for any distro or operating system.
'The GIMP community' does not package or provide packages for.any. operating system or distro. Individuals donating their time package gimp for. If gimp is not available or the version you wish is not available, contact the packager for your system and beg him to update his packages, or pay him or package it yourself, or install via source code, or just do without. It is free and open source software. Now you know and will not disseminate false and mis-leading information. (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ Photos: paka @ IRCnet freenode gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives.
Go to partha.com and download a full fledged package including a lot of extras. Available since years. Sent from a mobile device. On May 9, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:.
Maurizio Loreti 05-09-18 11:59: The GIMP community does not seem to care about OS X. But a version for OS X is available via MacPorts. IMHO, wait until 2.10.2 will be released and stay with 2.8 until then - YMMV. On 9 May 2018, at 15:51, Jake Bayer wrote: Hi GIMP Community, I'm brand new to this user list, and I had a question about the new 2.10 release. I know there's a direct download available for Windows and Linux, but when can we expect a macOS direct download for GIMP 2.10? Thanks Jake gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives: - Maurizio Loreti - 'The GIMP community' does not care, seem is not applicable, for any distro or operating system.
'The GIMP community' does not package or provide packages for.any. operating system or distro. Individuals donating their time package gimp for. If gimp is not available or the version you wish is not available, contact the packager for your system and beg him to update his packages, or pay him or package it yourself, or install via source code, or just do without. It is free and open source software. Now you know and will not disseminate false and mis-leading information. (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ Photos: paka @ IRCnet freenode gimp-user-list mailing list List address: List membership: List archives.
On 05/09/18 20:17, Patrick Shanahan wrote: 'The GIMP community' does not care, seem is not applicable, for any distro or operating system. 'The GIMP community' does not package or provide packages for.any. operating system or distro. Individuals donating their time package gimp for. If gimp is not available or the version you wish is not available, contact the packager for your system and beg him to update his packages, or pay him or package it yourself, or install via source code, or just do without.
It is free and open source software. Now you know and will not disseminate false and mis-leading information. So, the 'Gimp community' should look behind its back, because some miscreants have create a 'dowload.gimp.org' site where you can find read-to-install versions of Gimp 2.8 for Windows and OSX, and of Gimp 2.10 for Windows. Isn't that a bit misleading, too?. Ofnuts 05-11-18 02:42: On 05/09/18 20:17, Patrick Shanahan wrote: 'The GIMP community' does not care, seem is not applicable, for any distro or operating system.
'The GIMP community' does not package or provide packages for.any. operating system or distro. Individuals donating their time package gimp for. If gimp is not available or the version you wish is not available, contact the packager for your system and beg him to update his packages, or pay him or package it yourself, or install via source code, or just do without. It is free and open source software. Now you know and will not disseminate false and mis-leading information.
So, the 'Gimp community' should look behind its back, because some miscreants have create a 'dowload.gimp.org' site where you can find read-to-install versions of Gimp 2.8 for Windows and OSX, and of Gimp 2.10 for Windows. Isn't that a bit misleading, too? You mis-read or mis-understand. I did not say the 'gimp community' did not care but said that saying the lower case gimp community did not care for any distro or operating was not applicable. Also that the lower case gimp community did not package gimp for install. Perhaps now you understand.
(paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ Photos: paka @ IRCnet freenode. User Manual Hope I won't go OT (or, at least, not too much.) Anyway, I'm on OsX and I'm using Partha's Gimp version (which run great:)!) I was just wondering if anything is doable about an up-to-date version of the User Manual. So far, the only way I was/am able to have offline help while using Gimp was: - to create a 'help' folder share → gimp → 2.0 - to copy in it a folder (downloaded can'tevenrememberwhere o.O ) containing.html copies of the whole 2.8 GIMP User Manual ( ) Actually I've copied these files and I'm still using them, but I see an updated version of the Manual is out ( ). So, is there any known way to use it offline?
Thanks for help!